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Post by Woo on Dec 19, 2008 23:41:59 GMT -1
I just saw this list on what Empire magazine think are the best TV shows ever. It's a very good list and I think all those shows (maybe bar Deep Space 9 and Farscape excluded) deserve to be mentioned even if the list seems to disregard any TV shows made before the 90's, bar the odd Sitcom classic, and even Stevie Wonder could see No.1 coming a mile off, but still. The best episodes the mentioned were spot on too....however Fawlty Towers should be top 10 at least! |
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Post by Layne on Dec 20, 2008 14:52:30 GMT -1
I don't agree that shows like Heroes and Prison Break should be on there with only 2 years under their respective belts. Having seen neither however, I can't comment on their quality, but an "all time" list should have more rigid standards.
Personal bias leads me to say Buffy and Angel's positions should be swapped.
Three or four shows which could have made the list missed out due to the killing machine that is Star Trek and all it's installments (why not lump them all together as a franchise).
... and Babylon 5 sucked the big one.
All in all though, good list and interesting read.
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Post by Woo on Dec 20, 2008 16:15:09 GMT -1
I think Prison Break should make it. Heroes shouldn't really though- only season 1 was any good really and yeah 3 Star Trek's was overkill. Deep Space 9 was shit too!
I did like Angel (I looooove Am Acker! She was great in Alias too!), but I always prefered the lighter aspects in Buffy. It was funnier imo with Xander, Anya, Giles and the always cool Spike making me laugh. I want to buy the box set and watch them all ~ I came into the series very late.
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Post by Electra on Dec 20, 2008 20:13:03 GMT -1
Hmmmm... well I dont agree with a lot of them tbh. Blackadder only at number 20?! Red Dwarf at 26?! Deadwood at 31 (Did You Know? The word fuck and its derivatives are used 2,980 times throughout the show's three seasons.) And really... Father Ted is only at 36... who the hell voted on these?!
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Post by Layne on Dec 20, 2008 21:39:27 GMT -1
Idiots apparently. I defy my own logic by expressing sadness that Dead Like Me wasn't on the list, it was only 2 series, but 2 series of genius. I remember liking DS9, more fool me apparently.  That Asian guy in Heroes pisses me off even though I've never seen it, I just have him as Franklin from Scrubs in my mind and the very gaul he shows by trying to portray an (assumedly) serious character feels as though it's a personal slight against me. What got me was that a few of the shows had like one year as their timelines. How is that "greatest of all time"? |
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Post by Kevin Borg on Dec 21, 2008 12:44:21 GMT -1
he's far from serious in Heroes, Layne. Masi Oka, aka Franklin, aka Hiro Nakimura, is often the comic relief of the show. There's really only one scene in the first 3 volumes that he's completely, 100% serious, and it is by far the strongest scene of the series.
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Post by Electra on Dec 21, 2008 17:26:15 GMT -1
The one with his mother?
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Post by Woo on Dec 21, 2008 17:43:47 GMT -1
The one with Charley sureley?! That was a fantastic plot line. Yeah he's the comic relief of the show. God knows it needs relief these days.
Wasn't Hiro also the guy in an Austin Powers film who runs off shouting "Godzilla!" then going "Well not really Godzilla due to legal writes"?
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Post by MetalBlade on Dec 21, 2008 18:21:38 GMT -1
I think he means the scene from season one where Hiro appears on the subway train and tells Peter he is from the future. That scene alone is what I will always remember about Heroes when all the dust has settled. |
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Post by Electra on Dec 21, 2008 19:09:23 GMT -1
Aaaah of course. I was thinking of the scene with his mother as it had my crying bucketloads... but then so did the carphone warehouse ad with the lost little phone...
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Post by MetalBlade on Dec 21, 2008 19:23:22 GMT -1
And the ducklings who went for a swim down the drain...
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Post by Kevin Borg on Dec 22, 2008 6:13:21 GMT -1
I actually was refering to the scene with his mother, but I forgot about both the Charley Scenes and the Subway scene, both excellent.
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Post by Layne on Dec 22, 2008 9:33:19 GMT -1
And the ducklings who went for a swim down the drain... Rofl! If Franklin is a comic relief character, why is he featured so prominantly? I though Heroes was a serious show anyway. |
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Post by Electra on Dec 22, 2008 11:33:12 GMT -1
I actually was refering to the scene with his mother. Och I KNEW you had a soul really I though Heroes was a serious show anyway. I think its actually as camp as Christmas sometimes, and I dont know how serious a show can be when its about having super powers. |
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Post by MetalBlade on Dec 22, 2008 11:37:27 GMT -1
If Franklin is a comic relief character, why is he featured so prominantly? I though Heroes was a serious show anyway. Because he is The Catalyst. Not that that will make any sense to you, having never watched it . But Heroes is a serious show, and Hiro's character, although mainly comedic, is possibly the most important role in the entire show. He has the ability to freeze time, to teleport, and to travel both forwards and back in time. |
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