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Post by xenite on Jun 30, 2007 18:07:22 GMT -1
I'm rather annoyed with the whole "Roid Rage" thing too. Chris Jericho said it best. I can't remember the exact quote but it was something to the effect of Benoit having demons that go beyond anything dealing with steriods.
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Post by MetalBlade on Jul 1, 2007 12:15:44 GMT -1
I saw Chyna on Fox News the other night ripping on Vince. Other than that she had very little to say, and "ummed" & "aahed" and stammered her way through the whole interview. She looked a right mess too, with a face that looked like a Garbage Pail Kid.
Seems everyone who was anyone in wrestling is coming out of the woodwork to stick their two-penneth in. Everyone that is except those who actually KNOW anything and whose opinion has credibility.
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Post by xbox360owner on Jul 2, 2007 16:25:48 GMT -1
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Post by MetalBlade on Jul 2, 2007 16:56:01 GMT -1
I read a transcript of that interview a few days ago. Vince handled it pretty well under the circumstances. I loved how they showed a caption that said "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith, died of heart failure, alongside a big picture of OWEN HART!? Fucking knob-heads.
Vince rightly said it was unfortunate that the "Monster" Benoit was a part of WWE. Shoddy uninformed reporting simply makes the press look bad, and wrestling look good. I think Vince made wrestling look very honourable in the interview. Shame NBC could not return the favour.
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Post by Knoxville on Jul 3, 2007 14:19:02 GMT -1
I'm pretty sure Vince only made that apperance because the WWE have a deal with NBC over interviews and stuff.
There are alot of people calling for changes to the WWE's wellness policy, and I think WWE have adknowledged that they need to now. The only other thing really annoying me is that you have got alot of uncredited wrestling websites reporting utter shit to get more hits than usual.
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Post by xenite on Jul 5, 2007 20:09:53 GMT -1
My problem with the call for a change to the wellness policy is that toxicology reports aren't in. (Don't get me wrong. For the sake of wrestlers that I love who may be using the junk, I wish they'd leave it alone. But currently just linking steroids and this incident is presumptuous). We don't know if the Roid Rage thing had anything to do with it. I hate to say it but RVD did a decent defense of steriod use that is posted on p-dubya. Not that there's a defense of steroids, but his responses to the steroid question makes a lot of sense.
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Post by xenite on Jul 17, 2007 22:16:38 GMT -1
Okay, toxicology reports suggest that Benoit tested positive for testosterone and negative for anabolic steroids. The doctor indicated that the testosterone could have been prescribed to treat a testicular deficiency. Yay he killed his family without "Roid Rage". Does this make the media feel worse that they can no longer sensationalize the story? It sure doesn't make me feel better.
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Post by MetalBlade on Jul 18, 2007 9:22:43 GMT -1
That means the story will now be buried and we'll probably never again hear his name mentioned on the news. WWE were right to criticise the press for their aggressive approach to the steroids angle. At least everyone can breathe a little easier now the Sword Of Damocles is not hanging over their heads.
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Post by xenite on Jul 19, 2007 17:11:50 GMT -1
Yeah, for the most part it's dying down. But I have to admit that when I got home, they still tied the increased level of testosterone to steriods. Then, the next day (the 18th), the news media that I listen to actually manufactured a story of what happend:
Since there was alochol near his weights and Nancy had alcohol in her system but Chris didnt, they "surmised" that "Maybe he was working out and she was drunk, saying things to make him mad, and with 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his body he just lost it".
Now, I don't recall reading "10 times the normal level" but I'm sure different outlets reported different things. But I sat there absolutely amazed that they just created this scenario.
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Post by Intervention on Jul 31, 2007 10:48:07 GMT -1
I cannot believe it either, it just seemed to be such a shock first at his death and second for what came to light a few days afeter.
I have been reading a lot both on the net and Television and it seems that everyone seems to be jumping on the blame WWE Bandwagon, of course there will always be question of steroid rage, and also questions on WWE's treatment of stars (few holidays, working through injuries with pain killers ets)
However this doesnt take away that he killed his wife and an innocent child and that cannot be accused for, It is such a shame that agreat wrestler that broke the glass celing for a small technical wrestler, who has been respected for 20 years will never get remembered for his work and wrestling and will be remembered for being a murderer
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Post by Angel on Jul 31, 2007 21:39:46 GMT -1
It's almost amazing how many former wrestlers came out of the wood work on this one.
If anyone watches Nancy Grace in the states, you know what I mean. I'm talking Marc Mero and Lex Luger in particular. Luger should be absouetly ashamed of himself. He spent 10 minutes talking of the tragedy, then went on about his career and himself through and through.
I'm just glad that Fit Finlay and Mr. Kennedy stood up against those clowns. I for one look at the whole thing and can't blame WWE for this. They had nothing they could do. They had their wellness policy implemented, and they can't be responsible for this. Surely they can't watch wrestlers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to see what they're doing.
But I just don't see myself condoning an murderer anymore. I awaited the toxicology results and he indeed had stuff in him as was told. I saw him live 2 months before this, and I was just in shock 2 months later he was dead.
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Post by Intervention on Aug 2, 2007 9:28:11 GMT -1
I think all thats been said is very true and I wonder where wrestling will go from here? Do you think there will be any consequences of these events, I would like to see outside authorites carry out the drug tests like the Tour De France or NFL, there are so many holes in the wellness policy, if I have a prescription for 2 pain killers a day, theres still nothing stopping me from taking 15 a day where as I feel outside control would stem that a little
It would also be nice not to have so many big men in top positions both in WWE and TNA, it puts pressure on people to "get big" to become a star and that shouldnt be the case
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Post by Angel on Aug 3, 2007 19:21:29 GMT -1
I think if anything wrestling will get more tougher with their policies. Which is a good thing, and something that needs to be done. Plus now Congress will be investigating this as they have asked WWE to present their case of how their wellness policy works (or something like that.)
Sports here in general is just a lot of hype and sadly to say through this nonsense tragedy it may help save another person's life and help someone else realize that taking steroids is just wrong.
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Post by Woo on Aug 4, 2007 11:21:28 GMT -1
I first heard about this at work. We were talking about the whole stupid Vince's death angle and my mate asked "so If I go onto wwe.com will it say 'Vince R.I.P'?" I said yes, but he then came over and said that the whole page was dedicated to Benoit instead. I couldn't work out if it was an angle or real, which is really sad, and was just left with a feeling of emptiness when I found out what happened.
I was pretty annoyed when one of the Hart's, not Bret, said something like "Ah yes, I saw this coming" well if that's the case, why didn't you do something, you prick? Also I read in The Sun that Benoit may have killed his son with the Crippler Crossface....before the article explained how the move is performed...how stupid is that?
Like many people here, Benoit was one of my favorites and Benoit vs Angle at the Royal Rumble is my favorite match ever. I actually watched the match after his death and it is practically impossible to enjoy it now in light of what he did.
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